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Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 8:34 AM
Hey everyone! I need a bit of help, I'm asking on behalf of a friend. It may or may not be related to tulpas. Disordered systems, I need your help, please! My friend, who is the host of the system, let's call them "C", has been having episodes where "C" has been randomly disappearing and an alter/tulpa, let's call them "Z" (we are unsure whether or not their system is endogenic or traumagenic) has been pushed into front. Does anyone know a way to get "C" back/push them to front, or for "Z" to cope with the loss until they come back? Note: The episodes seem to be getting longer, and "C" feels like they are asleep when they are gone. (edited)
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I don't think there's a for sure way to keep someone in front in a situation like this. It sounds like it's causing significant trouble for c and z, so i'd advise them to see a doctor/psychiatrist/therapist/counselor. This also does sound like a disordered system, and as far as i know, people with DID and OSDD-1 have trauma, so they'd be a traumagenic system.
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Kei Wendt
I don't think there's a for sure way to keep someone in front in a situation like this. It sounds like it's causing significant trouble for c and z, so i'd advise them to see a doctor/psychiatrist/therapist/counselor. This also does sound like a disordered system, and as far as i know, people with DID and OSDD-1 have trauma, so they'd be a traumagenic system.
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 11:45 AM
Sadly, their parents would not let them see any professional. And the problems have only been appearing for these few days, C has had Z for years. However, I do think this is some sort of disordered system, but I'm unsure as to why there's a sudden change.
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There might be some sort of stress that has appeared, or there could be some sort of trauma resurfacing The brain is incredibly complex and could be producing this response for a variety of reasons
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Hm though As far as the 'pushing c back to the front' goes I might be a disordered system, or could be a tulpa system, so this may or may not apply But when i want to eishi (my alter) to front, i think about being him and imagine him watching and observing my senses, and imagine the feeling that happens when he fronts If he wants me to front, he does the same with me So maybe that would work for z? Though i'm really not sure as experiences vastly differ between disordered systems
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Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 11:57 AM
Oh, okay! Thanks so much for even the slightest amount of advice lol.
11:57 AM
I'll send it over to C!
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Np!
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Holistic Paradox
Sadly, their parents would not let them see any professional. And the problems have only been appearing for these few days, C has had Z for years. However, I do think this is some sort of disordered system, but I'm unsure as to why there's a sudden change.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/2/2023 3:04 PM
It doesnt matter if they are traumagenic or not, the fact is that their system behaves in some specific way that causes distress. The best is probably just to see a doctor, Your friend should convince the parents to see a doctor, you could try to help...
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
It doesnt matter if they are traumagenic or not, the fact is that their system behaves in some specific way that causes distress. The best is probably just to see a doctor, Your friend should convince the parents to see a doctor, you could try to help...
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:04 PM
Yep, I agree that it doesn't matter if they're traumagenic or not. I just think it's important information to disclose, so there aren't any assumptions made beforehand!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
It doesnt matter if they are traumagenic or not, the fact is that their system behaves in some specific way that causes distress. The best is probably just to see a doctor, Your friend should convince the parents to see a doctor, you could try to help...
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:06 PM
Sadly, their parents actually laugh and call them crazy for wanting to see a doctor. So we have no hope there. However, I'll be asking my school counselor for even a bit of help!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/2/2023 3:06 PM
How old are them?
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Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:06 PM
14, I believe
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/2/2023 3:10 PM
Where are they from if i can ask?
3:11 PM
I think asking the school counselor is a really good move, but i dont know exactly how it works there.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Where are they from if i can ask?
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:12 PM
Indonesia
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
I think asking the school counselor is a really good move, but i dont know exactly how it works there.
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:13 PM
We're both from Indonesia. Personally, my school counselor is.. not very adequate. Last time I asked her about my derealization problems, and she just said "be more mindful". But I'd say it's better than nothing, I guess.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/2/2023 3:14 PM
I also had a really bad school counselor, but still, you can try...
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
I also had a really bad school counselor, but still, you can try...
Holistic Paradox 4/2/2023 3:16 PM
Yes, but well, no other option.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/2/2023 3:17 PM
Im sorry for their situation, i did have more options myself, maybe there is a way really talking to their parents.
3:19 PM
I tried to find ways of getting therapy as a minor in indonesia, I didnt find anything interesting.
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In other communities with more disordered systems, they often talk about using "positive" triggers to get someone in front. So if there's something C really likes, it could be their favorite music or something strongly connected to them, Z could use that to try and get them back into front
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