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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 2:26 PM
I have a fairly small system consisting of 3 tulpas and 1 host (me). Two of those tulpas were created through forcing, while the other one was formed through my lucid dreams. I sometimes have short periods of emotional outbursts, and when this happens, the tulpas formed through forcing shut down, and the other one used to be fine, but now they're getting weaker. I asked them what happens when this happens, and they say that they have no recollection of that time period. Is this something common in the community and does anyone have a fix?
2:28 PM
Ping me if anyone replies!
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Holistic Paradox
I have a fairly small system consisting of 3 tulpas and 1 host (me). Two of those tulpas were created through forcing, while the other one was formed through my lucid dreams. I sometimes have short periods of emotional outbursts, and when this happens, the tulpas formed through forcing shut down, and the other one used to be fine, but now they're getting weaker. I asked them what happens when this happens, and they say that they have no recollection of that time period. Is this something common in the community and does anyone have a fix?
A long kiss goodnight 6/16/2023 2:47 PM
Sometimes stress or depression can make it harder to talk to your headmates. It could be that focusing on your headmates is too much when you're overloaded. After calming down, things should go back to normal
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I have a fairly small system consisting of 3 tulpas and 1 host (me). Two of those tulpas were created through forcing, while the other one was formed through my lucid dreams. I sometimes have short periods of emotional outbursts, and when this happens, the tulpas formed through forcing shut down, and the other one used to be fine, but now they're getting weaker. I asked them what happens when this happens, and they say that they have no recollection of that time period. Is this something common in the community and does anyone have a fix?
@Holistic Paradox - jump what do you mean by emotional outbursts?
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Leiko
I have a fairly small system consisting of 3 tulpas and 1 host (me). Two of those tulpas were created through forcing, while the other one was formed through my lucid dreams. I sometimes have short periods of emotional outbursts, and when this happens, the tulpas formed through forcing shut down, and the other one used to be fine, but now they're getting weaker. I asked them what happens when this happens, and they say that they have no recollection of that time period. Is this something common in the community and does anyone have a fix?
@Holistic Paradox - jump what do you mean by emotional outbursts?
Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:24 PM
It's a bit difficult to explain, but I have an issue where I would believe things that have no evidence to support it, and these would usually be pretty shitty things. Stuff like people trying to hurt me, etc. This usually has a "peak" and that's sort of it. There's also when I'm really "up", just in a very good mood and pretty hyper. Racing thoughts, starting stuff, etc. I also have my "peaks" there, so that's also what I mean I hope this made sense lol
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It's pretty annoying not having a headmate around when this happens. Since it's really hard to control myself (edited)
3:25 PM
And it's kinda weird when the headmate that used to have "immunity" from this is starting to get affected
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if it's hard to control yourself, it's not any easier to control anyone else in the head
3:26 PM
this is not a tulpamancy related issue
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:26 PM
Wdym?
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Ophelia (she/her) || ⚜ BOT 6/16/2023 3:27 PM
Hello.
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have you spoken to a doctor about those outbursts?
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Leiko
have you spoken to a doctor about those outbursts?
Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:27 PM
No
3:27 PM
It's a pretty big secret
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are you an adult?
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:28 PM
Nope
3:28 PM
No doctor for me, I've kinda just been trying to survive
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i think it's ok to keep it a secret from friends and coworkers, but it is fine to share it with a doctor who would know how to help you more than random people on the internet
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:29 PM
My parents wouldn't let me see a doctor for sure
3:29 PM
This is sort of all I have lol
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quite honestly, trying to solve things like that on the internet might actually make it worse
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:30 PM
I haven't really been trying to solve it per se, I just want to know if this "headmate turning off" thing is normal and how to fix it
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yes it is as normal as someone not being able to be happy when they are depressed
3:31 PM
i know it might not seem related to you but it is same mechanism
3:31 PM
let me try to explain it briefly
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:33 PM
Wait gtg rq, my mom just peaked over lmao
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a singlet has a capacity to be happy, when everything is safe when it gets less safe, they get out of control, they are unable to be happy no matter how hard they try a tulpamancer learns to switch, which includes having the brain experience a different emotion. if everything is safe, you can have a tulpa that is quite mean and energetic, and a tulpa that is happy but calm, and you can switch between these but just like a singlet cannot be happy if things are unsafe, a tulpamancer also cannot switch with (or talk to) a tulpa that doesn't resonate with the current overall state of the brain struggles to be active
3:35 PM
it is normal and is not related to tulpamancy, but to the state of the mind, and there might be many different reasons for this
3:35 PM
it might be something more serious like mental health disorders, but it could be something as mundane as not seeing anyone for a few weeks or visiting toxic places on the internet
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Luminesce: Ugh forgot to hit send earlier (edited)
3:36 PM
If you can't work on lessening the severity of the episodes, developing your tulpas better should still be enough to help them resist your mental state
3:36 PM
Not that I'm very emotional, but my tulpas can still stay flawlessly active even during extremely intense IRL stuff
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well you don't experience very unstable moods like the op
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Luminesce: No, but Flandre was there for every moment of me having my wisdom teeth out without being numbed enough, which was the worst pain of my life (to the point I was uncontrollably shaking) (edited)
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(Don't ask, I'm an idiot)
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:45 PM
Back!
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Leiko
a singlet has a capacity to be happy, when everything is safe when it gets less safe, they get out of control, they are unable to be happy no matter how hard they try a tulpamancer learns to switch, which includes having the brain experience a different emotion. if everything is safe, you can have a tulpa that is quite mean and energetic, and a tulpa that is happy but calm, and you can switch between these but just like a singlet cannot be happy if things are unsafe, a tulpamancer also cannot switch with (or talk to) a tulpa that doesn't resonate with the current overall state of the brain struggles to be active
Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:47 PM
This makes sense
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Luminesce: But yes, obviously working on lessening the severity of times like that will have the greatest effect, including benefit outside of tulpamancy in general (edited)
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:47 PM
Gotcha, it's just pretty hard to snap out of it
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Oh! I forgot to mention something
3:48 PM
Sometimes even a few days after these times, my tulpas still don't come back
3:48 PM
I think the longest was two weeks
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but they do come back at some point?
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Leiko
but they do come back at some point?
Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:50 PM
Yep
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so there is nothing to worry in that regard in my opinion
3:51 PM
you might be just emotionally exhausted, in time like this it's good to take care of yourself, have good rest, sleep well, eat well and not be hard on yourself
3:52 PM
however once you have an opportunity i would recommend talking to a doctor about your mood swings
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especially if they are extreme
3:52 PM
there is nothing to be embarrassed about. they would know how to help you. it might be something as simple as learning breathing techniques, or they might prescribe you medication
3:53 PM
remember that whatever you are going through it is certain other people have went through it too, there was research about it, and very likely doctors know how to help it
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Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 3:54 PM
Thanks for the assurance! I'll probably never be able to get help for it though
3:54 PM
My parents would never let me
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there will be a point in your life when you will get intependent from them
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Leiko
there will be a point in your life when you will get intependent from them
Holistic Paradox 6/16/2023 4:04 PM
Yep, I suppose so
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Holistic Paradox
Yep, I suppose so
CoppermineKittygirl 6/16/2023 4:42 PM
i can promise that point does come, im finally starting the search for help for the many issues i couldnt come to family for, or they would just give me even worse advice to "deal with it" and yes, i can also confirm being in the middle of a stressful or upsetting moment makes communication extremely hard, Since both Taygete and I try and comfort each other through everything, we have alot of practice maintaining some communication through stress, whether that be only physical imposition to hug each other, or still talking though maybe it just sounding very flat and monotone. if theres someone that is comforting or a good person to speak to in those moments, it might be worth it to practice trying to maintain some communication in those moments if it wont cause too much strain, but otherwise its natural to lose communication under extreme stress or emotional outbursts (edited)
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Holistic Paradox 7/14/2023 8:42 PM
Felt the need to update this
8:42 PM
So cough cough, long story short: Told my mom, got diagnosed with bipolar (edited)
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Got put on two meds
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But the meds seem to be affecting how vocal my tulpas are (except that one tulpa I mentioned before. Idk how they're doing it)
8:45 PM
So yeah, either way, I think I'm going to dissipate them or they're going to eventually die off :(
8:45 PM
Just going to have one tulpa, which isn't too bad ig
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