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Anyone want to take a look at this and tell me what you think before I submit it into review-pending purgatory https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YlY21Vy3TBpmSROUg_hqYUpnnFf4FVOZi0oArWqV2WQ/edit?usp=sharing
Tulpa Creation: The Laissez-Faire Approach How to be hands-off about a tulpa’s personal development during creation. By Felight Foreword There exist a multitude of guides that explain how to intricately plan out a tulpa’s form, personality, and identity during their cre...
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so now you have two creation guides
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This one's more supplemental than anything
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and
9:32 PM
you're asking for critique here
9:32 PM
when you're part of the GAT
9:33 PM
🙃
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yeah?
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>5 pages no double space
9:35 PM
aw man, no option for leaving comments
9:36 PM
What if you decide to ignore your own thoughts on how you want them to turn out, I think this part could do better. Most people who don't want Monika or Sans Undertale already have decided they are going to let their tulpa choose. It's not an experiment to them, it's more a consequence of their preference
9:38 PM
it’s very fulfilling to see them grow naturally into their own person it can be exciting and satisfactory to see them grow into their own person, redundancy. Remove one. (edited)
9:40 PM
While of course tulpas with planned personalities will still be able to grow into their own independent identity, not planning one out means that there is less of an obstacle to get through: there is more of an opportunity for them to comfortably find themselves without having to break past what’s already been given to them. This is all one sentence and the later half of it is especially difficult to read. Try simplifying it a bit
9:45 PM
be me be writing a response to a particular sentence see felight changing that sentence with no prompting.
reee let me tear this apart
9:46 PM
as they won’t have to break past what’s already been established for them. Additionally, not planning out a personality means there is less of a chance of a tulpa going through an identity crisis, or other similar issues, since their identity was entirely their own already. This doesn't quite sit right with me. It subtly suggests that personality forcing is not only worthless, but potentially actively detrimental. I kinda agree that personality forcing is often misunderstood as a process but I think wholly dismissing it is somewhat uncalled for. This especially coming from a tulpa who only changed in terms of sexuality over time
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It is potentially detrimental
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Alright, fair. I suppose a fuller guide would be more appropriate on how to tackle personality forcing
9:50 PM
It still feels off to me but I can't put a finger on it
9:52 PM
The entire next paragraph is a good ol' bait and switch. The first line of the paragraph promises the beginning of making a tulpa and then goes off into a tangent reassuring the reader that personality forcing, form, etc. isn't necessary
9:54 PM
Many people worry that they need to do that
9:54 PM
that paragraph was addressing that concern
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So, mainly, just change the introduction into it, is what I'm trying to get at
9:57 PM
If you’ve decided to allow a tulpa to grow entirely from scratch into their own person, the question is what you should do to get started. How do you create a tulpa without planning out their personality and form, and is it even possible? The answer is that of course it is! Instead something like "Some might wonder how a tulpa can created without whatever." Then immediately going into how none of those things aren't really necessary right off the bat and then say "plenty of people don't start with a fomr or single personality trait" after that
9:58 PM
There are many people who create tulpas without so much as a single personality trait planned, and those tulpas turn out just as well-developed as any other perhaps just "and they turn out fine." Implies just as much information a bit snappier
9:58 PM
granted my suggestion sounds like the woke young 'n saying "my grandma has smoked for 40 years and she's fine!"
10:00 PM
The entire rest of the paragraph is establishing just one point, "Personality forcing doesn't affect speed, so don't worry about it" and as such could be trimmed down majorly
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I like you mentioned the fact people can think of many options for name/form and let tulpa choose one instead of just giving them one name and one form at the start. But except that, the whole guide doesn't look like being helpful for a newcomer to learn how to make a tulpa. What is problematic for people is to feel a tulpa is talking to them, they are going to make progress fast after achieving it regardless of if they use any guide or not. In your guide you assume they figure out the hardest part on their own.
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I already said it was a supplementary guide
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There are many people who create tulpas without so much as a single personality trait planned, and those tulpas turn out just as well-developed as any other. There is a bit of a misconception around the community that not planning out a tulpa’s identity makes it harder to create one. However, there isn’t really much reason to believe this: there are countless factors that go into how quickly or how slowly a tulpa develops, and there’s not much reason to believe that personality forcing affects the speed or difficulty. This can still be trimmed down. Perhaps even as much as "There are many people who create tulpas without so much as a single personality trait planned, and those tulpas turn out just as well-developed as any other with no detriment to their speed or difficulty of make"
10:07 PM
Being more assertive in general would help your word count
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For example, little things like "The answer is that of course it is!" being turned into "Of course it is"
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That looks good 👍
10:11 PM
since it is not entirely required you give them some form of placeholder. this is sorta already implied with what's said just before
10:12 PM
Encourage them to take their time deciding on which gender/name they want to have, so that they make the right choice for themselves. Let's not kid ourselves, the gender is always going to be the sexually attractive one
10:12 PM
don't @ me
10:13 PM
, this is not to imply that that isn’t the case. this is redundant
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I have data that suggests it is indeed sonewhat harder to create a tulpa without planning
10:15 PM
So that section may be factually incorrect. It's not substantial enough of a difference for me to encourage people one way or another, but a statistically significant one nonetheless. I'll link the relevant data when I get home
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I kinda think that that's just because people assert that it's harder
10:17 PM
people used to take many, many months to make tulpas back when everyone asserted it would take longer
10:17 PM
nowadays it only takes a couple weeks if that
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Instead of giving them the form of a certain person, character, etc., you can simply give them "Instead, you can give them..."
10:18 PM
try to avoid adverbs that don't add anything to the writing
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Considering that all creation guides had similar times to create tulpas among respondents, including the older ones, I don't think that's the case.
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but adverbs are my best friends
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You can write an entire PhD thesis in English without ever using an adverb
10:19 PM
Not that I don't use them
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...a recent survey isn't going to include the oldfags who aren't in the community anymore
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Honestly @Bethel🌸 some of your flow and grammar corrections aren't necessary or correct
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reee, you do it then
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You pointed out a long sentence earlier but the only significant error was that the colon in it should have been a semicolon. Long sentences in and of themselves are fine, unless they grow too long, but that one didn't.
10:20 PM
I'm on mobile
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It is entirely possible to force a tulpa without giving them a form. this sentence isn't necessary. You tell them the bare minimum requirements the next sentence
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In regards to the introductory section, it seems partial. A guide should generally avoid being opinionated, and you seem to be strongly of the opinion that going without personality forcing is somehow better - but that's an opinion, and what you're doing by incorporating personal views into a guide is translating your biases into statements of fact.
10:25 PM
This is one of the most common errors I see in all documents I edit, by the way
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you don’t need a pre-planned personality which doesn’t require a pre-planned personality whatsoever Redundancy
10:28 PM
Their connections in your brain won’t be prevented from building up just because you haven’t given them a list of traits to follow I loled
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I think it's important to re-evaluate how you speak in absolutes, too. The way you phrase things in the form section makes it seem as though it's all or nothing in regards to planning - what if the host knows they want a male tulpa, but don't want to go with anything more specific? What if they want a male human tulpa? Mentioning that there can be room for variation and that these concepts are not all or nothing seems to be a necessary change
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Instead, you can give them the form of an orb of light, a blob, a non-specific human or animal, an egg, or just generally something simple that doesn’t have much meaning to you, and use that as a focus aid while forcing. This better?
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“If I don’t plan out a personality, how will they get one?” d-do people ask this? I really hope not o.o , of course no Most tulpas deviate from their pre-planned personalities anyway, because the experiences they go through cause them to develop into their own person. It’s entirely possible they might end up totally different from how they were planned, so skipping the personality planning is just cutting out the middle-man, so to speak. I think this section can be trimmed. Some ideas are repeated twice with difference words like Hebrew poetry
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The brain isn’t going to do something like that, and there’s not much reason to believe that it will. It isn’t a conscious entity, it’s an organ that collects/processes data and handles physical processes. As mentioned, experiences will influence your tulpa’s personality as time goes on. The “brain” has nothing to do with this beyond the storing and retrieving of information. Of course, the information already existing in your brain can influence them, but that’s not the same as the brain stepping in and making a personality. There’s not much reason to expect that to happen. It doesn't matter what the brain actually does. Thinking of concepts as "the brain doing something" is how people simplify very abstract and advanced concepts that they often understand innately. What this section is talking about is how "the brain" won't give the tulpa a personality - but it appears that the foundation of a new tulpas personality is how the host entity thinks the tulpa will respond to things and process information. In a sense, you're refuting something that is correct, if simplified through means that are not anatomically and biologically accurate
10:35 PM
A tulpa without a planned personality appears to develop those reactions, preferences, and filters without the host input - who they are still comes from somewhere, though.
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It doesn't come from "the brain" or the "subconscious" stepping in, though
10:37 PM
beyond the normal biological processes the brain does anyway
10:39 PM
I remember when Indigo was a newborn tulpa, his personality basically developed just by the things he liked to do and how he liked to see people react integrating into a greater behavioral pattern
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I trust Kopase to tear you up a bit and for you to apply what wisdom I have given to the rest of the guide for now. I'll check back later but imma spend time with family
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it didn't pop out of the aether (I still don't know how to spell that word)
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that's the proper spelling
10:40 PM
as is ether
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Yeah and not every case I've seen is like that. Most seem to develop with some kind of personality already present, even if it's simplistic abd unrefined
10:41 PM
I surmise this is due to passive expectations from the host
10:41 PM
but not "the subconscious" or whatever
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Personality does not develop solely through experiences. At its core, a personality is how you see and process information and the world
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I need to put a pause on this too because I want spaghetti
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That's not actually how "personality" is usually defined in psychological literature.
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What I'm trying to tell you is that the nitpicking you do with this section is counterproductive
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It's a part of it broadly, but the short definition is usually something more like "consistent individual behavior pattern."
10:43 PM
Less focus on processing, more on behavior.
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Alright, but how does behavior get expressed?
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Behavior is the response to stimulus
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I'm not saying that what you mentioned isn't part of it.
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Interpretation of the same stimulus can vary dramatically between individuals
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Just that you're talking about a specific facet of personality, and not the whole thing.
10:46 PM
You can see and process information in fundamentally similar ways but still have different habits, and different emotional tendencies.
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I dislike how you repeatedly say "the laissez-faire way is X" - because you've included that term in your guide name, the implication is now that anything else goes against the guide, and is thus wrong
10:47 PM
Since anyone reading this seriously has already trusted you to be making statements of fact
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I need to put a pause on this
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Ive got to go as well for class. I'll finish tearing it apart later
10:48 PM
But you can check these comments later too
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Why do you keep using such aggressive language? Jesus
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"Tearing apart" was meant to be joking sorry :P
10:50 PM
But I don't mince words when editing. A professional editor never hesitates to make a correction, and I've been editing professionally for years now.
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using "The Brain" like you do is literally no different than saying THE SUBCONSCIOUS tho
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that's the point
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It's also oddly misleading because you are your brain
12:36 AM
at least, a part of it
12:36 AM
Perhaps more mocking quotation marks for "The brain" then
12:38 AM
I would rather an explanation for the mentality you're trying to get at though
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