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https://github.com/Xe/when-then-zen -> meditation instructions devoid of spirituality (edited)
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Still looking for an extra person to consult for a study on meditation and tulpa creation. If you consider yourself knowledgeable about meditation and its workings, please send me a DM. (edited)
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http://www.headspace.com Audio guided meditation for general wellness and mindfulness in many different topics. Offers a free trial of 10 sessions, 10 minutes each, that you can listen to over and over. The free trial also includes playing a single file from some more specific focuses.
Live a happier, healthier life with just a few minutes of meditation a day on the Headspace app.
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A meditation technique that I absolutely adore and I use for mind calmness and to work through things https://git.xeserv.us/CelestialBoon/tulpaforce/src/master/site/guides/other/quantum-pause.md
tulpaforce.xyz source files
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V∆L-H∆L8 5/23/2018 1:26 AM
I usemetal music and 2000s gamma frequencies for meditation.
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I have always found any sort of music can help me meditate as long as I can "vibe" with it
5:03 PM
I don't meditate for very long however, usually long enough to clear my mind or reset my emotional state. No longer than 10-15 minutes at a time usually.
5:04 PM
Any longer than that and I end up day dreaming or falling asleep since my brain gets to the calm state and is then like "now what"
5:04 PM
I practice mindfulness and similar philosophy during my every day life however and am constantly seeking the "reality" and "truth" of things
5:06 PM
Just training yourself to adhere to "do no harm" and truly adhere to it can really give one some perspective...though I think that all depends on how far you take that perspective
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Deleted User 5/31/2018 5:15 PM
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reposting @Deleted User 's meditation method here because it's legit So, erect spine, relax, breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth and listen closely for the sound of a fog-horn on the horizon youre never gonna hear the foghorn, but what itll cause you to find a sense of space and to "shift" cause youre listening and focusing and once this sense of space expands, maintain awareness of it then after this - talk and think about your tulpa visualize them Sit up straight, back erect, breathe in and out steadily (in through nose, out through mouth) and listen for the sound of a blaring foghorn. (You can listen to like rain or white noise or whatever too if that helps) you need to listen like, deeply for the foghorn. You’ll never hear it obviously, but your sort of sense of space will “shift” and expand. And you should maintain awareness of this feeling in this awareness, imagine and ruminate on your tulpa. There are various symbolic things you can picture going on to help with this. One tried and true method is imagining her form in the center of like a space, and the personality traits that you imagine her having sort of “pouring” into her like an energy with the belief that “this is how she is” negative, positive, likes dislikes
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when using the Theta Eyebo. should I focus on rava or just relax?
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@Mystes can you write up a guide for those of us with mostly developed tupps trying to properly meditate for active forcing sessions?
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well it's just, reach the meditative space the same way, and then use it in whatever way. The key idea is to state the intent before the session and then surrender as it happens and plays out (edited)
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okay I will need to do this when less busy
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I just feel like such a piece of shit for not active forcing tonight, I missed out last night and it's just gotten away from me. I need to find my noise cancelling headphones, that's what killed it. I can't get in the zone without them
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you don't have to feel bad, things just happen. You can use the occasion to acknowledge what you desire, and resolve more clearly to obtain it
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@meowdude
4:20 PM
Meditation for Those Seeking to Dissociate This guide should be used as a reference for those who want a thought-out look into meditation for dissociation and dissociation's uses in tulpa things. I ha
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does the use of dissoscosciative help? how does the feeling differ? I know what it feels like to be outside of my physical body and in a different astral kind of form. Is it any different, or different enough to scare m?
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I wouldn't use dissociatives since your tulpas will be just as dissociated as you if you take them.
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It's definitely different ime.
11:26 AM
Dissociating from meditation is an inside blankness, not a being outside, ime.
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I wasn't planning on using them, just wondering what it is like compared... that sounds unique and interesting (edited)
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Deleted User 6/21/2018 3:21 AM
Good luck staying focused on tulpa forcing if you’re on dissociative drugs.
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You can learn to do anything while on anything
3:28 AM
When I first did this stuff I was sober
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Then I became a stoner and learned how to do it again
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When I went sober I had to re-learn it again
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Etc.
3:28 AM
Changes in brain chemistry do, in fact, require changes in certain practices (edited)
3:29 AM
Or at least, in my experience.
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I wouldn't know. I'm straight edge.
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Deleted User 6/21/2018 2:16 PM
MJ is not a real dissociative. This list here shows which drugs are: https://erowid.org/chemicals/
Extensive information about psychoactive chemicals and drugs (both common and uncommon) including effects, legal status, research, media coverage, images, bibliographies and links.
2:17 PM
Also, meditation with the help of drugs is not worth it. Oftentimes your progress is only illusionary, so I wouldn't waste the energy( or the weed^^ )
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@Deleted User some solid dex planning and I could stay focused. PCP is a different story, and from what I've heard the anolgues are the same. I was curious about ket but I'll never be able to try it since sober and AJ is a neat freak anti drug
2:19 PM
>erowid Useful, but full of shit stories
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Deleted User 6/21/2018 2:46 PM
Of course, take everything on the net with a grain of salt (or two, or more)^^
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I don't read stories
2:16 AM
Just the medical info they have usually
2:16 AM
Very helpful. Should always know what you are putting in your body
2:17 AM
And different things affect different people and brains in different ways
2:17 AM
@Deleted User while your statement may be true for some people it is not necessarily true for all
2:18 AM
But for sure, tons of people get super fried and think they are having actual spiritual moments....
2:18 AM
But I mean you don't need drugs for delusion to occur, for sure. (edited)
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hey is there anything for a quick tulpa related meditation thing for like over a coffee break(under 15 minutes)?
6:46 PM
I'll admit it may not be as effective but it would nice to try something
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/23/2018 6:46 PM
I mean... if you can get into the meditative state that quickly, it should be fine
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fair enough
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/23/2018 6:49 PM
Usually takes me a few minutes at least, if I can find someplace quiet enough
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ya I'm not sure if I could get into it fast enough to make use of it now that you mention that.
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Deleted User 6/23/2018 8:53 PM
If it´s just for a break, why not try walking meditation?
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I've never heard of walking mediation how does that work?
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:33 PM
It's pretty self explanatory, you walk and you meditate. There's not much more to it. Unfortunately, I only read German books on the topic, so I can't really send you a like, but searching the web should yield some satisfying results. In the meantime, here's what I got from my books: 1. Pick a topic to meditate about, maybe you want some insight about a certain situation or you wish to better understand a person / abstract concept. In my case, I wanted general insight, so I picked the word 'Vipassana', which means insight in Hindu. You can also pick a whole sentence, just don't make it too long. 2. Select a route. It can be anything really, you could take a stroll in the park or walk between terminals in an airport. In your case, you could walk around your office building (assuming you work an office job). 3. Walk that route, but be patient. Walk as if you have no destination in mind, be aware of every step you take. Now, don't focus your attention to much on the walking part, but try to walk 'mindfully' instead of just normal, destination driven walking. 4. While you walk, count your breath with your steps. I, for example started with 2 steps for breathing in and 3 for breathing out. But it could also be a 2 - 2 or even 5 - 3 pattern. Don't force your breath, just let it happen and try to synchronize your steps if needed. 5. Now, remember the phrase or word you picked in 1.? Repeat it to your breathing. I with my 2 -2 breathing and 'Vipassana' topic count 'Vi - Pas' for breathing in and 'Sa - Na' for breathing out. (edited)
5:35 PM
You can do this for any amount of time and any distance. It always puts a nice, relaxed half smile on my face and calms me down.
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Let me know if you want to know anything else
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@Aren I once read a supposed Buddhist saying: "You should meditate for at least 15 minutes a day. And if you do not have 15 minutes a day to meditate, then you should take at least 30."
7:49 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I have meditated on the shitter in extreme situations when privacy and alone time was limited
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Just tell people you ate taco bell, etc....
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hahahaha
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ya I normally try to get at least 45 minutes active forcing it's a little harder since I got a real job that actually wants me working 8 hour shift I'm also looking into lucid dreaming maybe I could get more quality time with Hanna that way
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If it's customer service then rip. My full-time works pretty well with meditation/passive forcing though since I'm mostly just manual labor.
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I feel liek thats the textual representation of your voice cracking
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But I build cast iron vacuum pumps. I basically go to work to lift metal, turn metal, and put metal together
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I am a robutt.
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So it lets me play in my mind palace no probs
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I like it that way.
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2dimensionalrodent 6/30/2018 10:26 PM
How much does meditating help the process of creating and hearing a tulpa vs not doing it at all?
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A shittonne cause you're actually focusing.
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2dimensionalrodent 6/30/2018 10:30 PM
Alright thanks
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I have heard some murmuring that meditation is bad for "time of first vocality" based on one person's survey.
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Eh, gonna bet that's cause people who meditate aren't the people who'll instantly buy the idea of tups.
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I think there is some argument behind it as well. Meditation is about being still and knowing yourself. Tulpamancy is not necessarily benefited by a quiet mind. I don't think meditation is bad, though, by any means
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Harder to make one if you don't believe.
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meditation doesn't require you to disbelief though
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I think swindy is saying that the person who meditates is going to be more likely to have a "real" tulpa and report vocality more accurately
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/30/2018 10:33 PM
People who instantly believe in stuff probably would struggle to make real tulpas
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I'd personally think it goes either way. Meditation can be connected to knowledge/understanding of the self and to mysticism and a lack of skepticism. (edited)
10:34 PM
Does that sound accurate?
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Maybe in general, but the kinda people who pop out around here, don't think so. At all.
10:35 PM
Meditationy people gonna be more serious than the kinda people who don't do that. But hey I was made that way and I take myself seriously so I totally got a bias.
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That's fair
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I got like, limited respect for tups who never get alone time/dedicated time. If you just do the passive forcing thing, your tup doesn't get much chance to really think independently.
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what gives a tulpa time to think independently?
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When it's doing shit that's not just responding to the world together with its host.
10:45 PM
Like I'm talking to you 100% alone and not having anything to do with host. Counts. Like doing shit in meditation that requires a tup to actually think stuff up.
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I'm confused as to how meditation might give this time to a tulpa
10:51 PM
I guess this would be sort of akin to active forcing and asking the tulpa open ended questions?
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Shit like that yeah. Like you put the tup on the spot cause it can't just kinda slide along the host. It has to actually think.
10:56 PM
Like talk about shit that's going on around you and it's way easier to make conversatino than if you're alone in a void.
10:56 PM
So it gives tups a place to actually use their brains.
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I don't personally relate doing that to meditation. However, I really strongly agree with the idea of doing and practicing at trying that sort of thing. (edited)
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[Oh, Swindy, yeah. Harley would read thought experiments to me and make me think about it on my own without responding after I was vocal. Idk if thats meditation though, but I think I get you] (edited)
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Is there really any difference to in the practice of open/half open eyed vs close eyed meditation?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/1/2018 6:46 PM
Amount of visual input that needs to be filtered out?
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ok so same basic idea just a bit more discipline I guess
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/1/2018 6:49 PM
Discipline doesn't feel quite like the right word for it
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